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16/09/2015 9:09 pm
 

As to the issue of the waypoint conveyed during the briefing, both briefing officers said it was nowhere other than McMurdo Station.

The audio-visual presentation said it was at the McMurdo Station area.

The simulator was programmed using a flight plan and was later repositioned to the McMurdo waypoint - and ended up at the McMurdo Station area.

Captain Simpson’s initial statements were consistent with a waypoint at McMurdo Station and in one of those statements, made before ALPA got its hooks into him, he said that he sighted a flight plan from “previous years flights”. That could only have been the flight plan used to program the simulator, where the waypoint was at McMurdo Station.

First Officer Gabriel also sighted a flight plan where the TACAN was “a bit east of the McMurdo position”, ie McMurdo Station.

That just leaves First Officer Irvine.

First Officer Irvine was one of those spoken to by Ron Chippindale shortly after the accident. According to Chippendale, First Officer Irvine said that he thought the track went direct to McMurdo Station but down the sound rather than over Ross Island and Erebus. (Macfarlane p350) Given that the only map available at the briefing did not show the previous waypoint (Cape Hallett) that was a conclusion that was easy to draw.

In the written statement prepared for First Officer Irvine by ALPA’s lawyers there is no reference to the waypoint conveyed during the briefing. (Macfarlane p236) All that is said is that First Officer Irvine believed that Ross Island would be well out to the left of the nav track. The position of the waypoint was studiously avoided - but after reading out his statement, First Officer Irvine was asked a question:

DO I TAKE IT FROM THAT THAT SO FAR AS YOU WERE CONCERNED YOURSELF YOU DID NOT KNOW THE GEOGRAPHICAL POSITION OF THAT WAYPOINT . . . I COULD NOT HAVE WALKED STRAIGHT TO A MAP AND INDICATE WHERE THE NAV. TRACK FINISHED. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WOULD FLY INTO THE AREA OF THE MCMURDO FIELDS. (Transcript p1733)

Obviously, there were no grass fields - the stenographer made a mistake. But there was an airfield, called Williams Field. That was the area that First Officer Irvine was referring to, an area close to McMurdo Station, not over 20 miles west. It should be noted that First Officer Irvine would have heard, from the audiotape, the following words: “Enter NZAA then 78S/167E this being the approximate coordinates of McMurdo Station.” 167E was slightly to the east of McMurdo Station, by the airfield.

I would venture to suggest that First Officer Irvine’s story never changed. It was ‘down the sound, with Ross Island to the left, direct to the McMurdo Station area”. That’s what he said to Chippindale and that’s what he said, eventually, in his evidence. That’s also what he would have  said to ALPA’s lawyers, but what came out: ‘down the sound, with Ross Island to the left’. That was only half the truth, being the half that suited ALPA.

 
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17/09/2015 4:18 am
 
As I said on the Gabriel thread, I reckon it'd be better to merge the three separate threads into one - not least because it's quite difficult to keep track of who said what where!

One quick thing though - it's entirely possible that you're correct in thinking that the stenographer made a mistake, however I think it's just as possible that they got it right and FO Irvine was referring to the *ice fields*.  I'm pretty sure from memory that whenever an ANZ pilot mentioned Williams Field they referred to it as "the ice runway".
 
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17/09/2015 5:35 am
 

That's still the McMurdo Station area, not more than 20 nautical miles west, by the Dailey Islands.

 
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17/09/2015 5:06 pm
 
The whole Sound was an expanse of flat sea ice, mind you.
 
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